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Is The AI Bubble Popping? | Jack and Max on Data Center Debt, Fragile Markets, and Insurance Companies

Is The AI Bubble Popping? | Jack and Max on Data Center Debt, Fragile Markets, and Insurance Companies

Update: 2025-11-21
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As investors’ outlook on AI capital expenditure sours, Jack and Max explore the rising debt issuance to fund artificial intelligence development, and the faltering share prices of companies with exposure to the “AI factor”: the hyperscalers (particularly Oracle), the chip companies, and the neoclouds such as Coreweave and Nebius. Jack then looks at two insurance companies, Kinsale and Palomar, as insurance sector does its part to hold up the S&P 500. Jack and Max also give an update on Chinese fintechs at the end. Recorded on November 21, 2025.
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Timestamps:


00:00 Intro


02:28 Debt Fueled CapEx Boom


08:23 "AI CEOs Are Building a God"


11:24 The Real Speculative Bubble


15:51 NeoCloud Risk


17:53 Fiscal AI


19:11 Healthcare and Insurance Strength


21:38 Kinsale Capital Group


27:38 Factors Benefiting Insurance


29:12 Palomar Holdings


33:48 Jobs Data and December Fed Meeting


37:26 Chinese Fintech Bloodbath


40:32 Conclusion

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Is The AI Bubble Popping? | Jack and Max on Data Center Debt, Fragile Markets, and Insurance Companies

Is The AI Bubble Popping? | Jack and Max on Data Center Debt, Fragile Markets, and Insurance Companies

Jack Farley